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Businesspeople[edit]

Stephen Meade[edit]

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Does not meet the WP:GNG. PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Philipp Haas[edit]

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There's not much significant coverage of Philipp Haas published in multiple secondary and reliable sources. There seem to be 2 interviews with him. He hasn't won any awards. He is just the CEO of a notable company. There is not much for a proper biography article. Ynsfial (talk) 07:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: doesn't meet Wikipedia Notability guidelines for people. EncyclopediaEditorXIV (talk) 17:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Swift[edit]

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Fails notability (WP:N), verifiability (WP:V), and what Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT). The article has made no progress in years, research shows no potential to rectify. Spagooder (talk) 17:08, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohit Bharatiya[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL & WP:GNG. Doesn't appear to have won any elections and majority of sources appear to be promotional/puffery. jellyfish ✉ 21:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Guillermo Pineda[edit]

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A CV-type autobiography with minimal sourcing. Whether as a businessperson, an academic or as a political adviser, I am not seeing evidence that the subject has attained biographical notability here. The Prensa Libre Q&A item (2011) is closest to a 3rd party source on his teaching role, and I don't see inclusion in a 30-under-30 list as sufficient. There are a couple of academic papers (as LGP Rodas) but these appear insufficient to demonstrate academic notability. AllyD (talk) 11:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Advisor to the Deputy Minister of xyz is not a notable position. This is a resume for a political staffer, basically a regular office job. I'm not seeing notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mykyta Nagatkin[edit]

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Person is not notable, the article is promotional only with no significant reliable coverage; speedy delete? 鲁纳娄于 (talk) 10:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Nick Nagatkin another previous attempt to recreate the page 鲁纳娄于 (talk) 10:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Frank Morse (California attorney)[edit]

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Not a notable person. Possible WP:BLP1E. I removed some scandalous content which was unsourced, but presumably mentioned in Larry J. Kolb's book. No other sources. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I'm unsure if this is the same individual mentioned here in connection with the 1992 riots in LA [1]; regardless, it's a name drop. What's used in the article now is simply a biography of a working lawyer. I don't see notability and the lack of sourcing doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 03:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment I've added two cites, one of which seems to be significant coverage, but limited to the beating in Mississippi (no kidnapping mentioned). There's also this which I can't find online.

Associated Press (A.P.), “Beating Charged,” Clarion-Ledger (Jackson MS), October

22, 1964, p. 16. Oblivy (talk) 04:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It is barely verifiable (but not through sources contributing to notability) that the 1960s Stanford Frank Morse had the middle name Patrick [2], that the civil rights activist and beating victim was named Frank Morse and was from California, that Frank Patrick Morse is an attorney based in Beverly Hills [3] and was connected to some of the named companies. I could not verify any connection to UC Irvine (COI: my employer). None of the legal work removed from the article nor any of its material after the 1960s looks to make any case at all for notability. All we have left to base an article on is the civil rights story and a long "where are they now" WP:SYNfest. And I don't think we have enough detail on the civil rights story to rise above WP:BIO1E. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for inability to meet WP:BASIC, and probably WP:BLP1E as well. I was holding off to see if anyone found more sources, but I agree with @David Eppstein this is really a where-are-they-now article for somebody who even at the time was pretty obscure. Happy to reconsider if more sources are found. Oblivy (talk) 14:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paweł Borys[edit]

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This reads like a short and to-the-point business resume. — Maile (talk) 21:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jerry Newton[edit]

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The article seems to attempt to inherit notability from Wayne Newton, Jerry's younger brother. WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Checking the references is challenging. Jerry does appear, generally with reference to the sibling, and as a passing reference to Jerry. The article seems to be more a tribute (WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies) than anything else. Jerry was obviously notable to those who loved and respected him, but the references do not show a pass of any of WP:BIO, WP:NMUSICIAN, nor WP:NACTOR. Releasing records does not mean notability, nor does a bit part in an episode of Bonanza where he is listed as a cast member, but his part was not a named character. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I agree with the nominator, as Jerry had a minor career as an entertainer but with no achievements on his own that satisfy our notability requirements. He is only mentioned briefly in sources about his much more famous brother. This article is probably an attempted memorial. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:NOTMEMORIAL certainly and his career is alongside his brother, then minor bit parts and a lawsuit...— Iadmc ♫^talk 20:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Jerry is mentioned in Wayne Newton § Early years, but that doesn't really look promising as a redirect target. Maybe a suitable Fandom/Miraheze site can accept what currently passes for this brother's article? (Disclaimer: A recent Teahouse thread brought me here.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Wayne Newton. There's potential for five extra articles that can have him as a redirect. Simple solution and we can also preserve the history as well. Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pamela Meyer Davis[edit]

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WP:BLP1E. Could easily be merged into Rod Blagojevich corruption charges. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 05:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into Rod Blagojevich corruption charges per WP:BLP1E. Fails WP:GNG, standalone page not warranted. Sal2100 (talk) 21:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Meyers (businessman)[edit]

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A non-notable businessman. Doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Can't find any notable works other than founding his company which barely passes WP:ORG. I recently AfD'd his company's article as well. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 07:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Fred Meyers is also an American retired actor and paramedic while Fred Meyer is a company. I'm having trouble separating them out — Iadmc ♫^talk 08:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete any search has nothing about this guy and plenty about others of the same name: [4][5][6] etc. The article does nothing to establish notability — Iadmc ♫^talk 08:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sourabh Chowdhury[edit]

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Doesn't meet GNG and reliable sources for inclusion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: All I can find are variations of this story [7], which don't contribute to notability, and I'm unsure if it's the same person. The article now is very PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 01:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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So you think the major cause for deletion is insufficient sources and a little bit promo content? OK, if I fix both causes, then will you guys agree on retaining the article? Strikingstar01 (talk) 03:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon T. Bailey[edit]

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Non-notable speaker. Zero in-depth secondary source about him. A few mentions in promotional guest posts or invitations of his events. Tagged since 2015 but has been continously attracting COI/UPE editors. Fails WP:GNG. Teltle (talk) 05:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - the only thing here that qualifies as a claim of notability is the CPAE Speakers Hall of Fame, and doing a newspapers.com search for that Hall, the 34 times I find of it being mentioned are basically all clearly quoting press release materials about a given speaker, or flat out ads. Web search is not finding the sort of results that suggest it should be given more consideration. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Werner[edit]

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I nominated this for AfD because an IP prodded it and I felt like it might be controversial. Not sure if he meets the WP:GNG but there are a decent amount of sources. (Don’t seem reliable though, citehighlighter is highlighting a lot of them orange and red) 48JCL TALK 02:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Seems to be a well-written résumé, but doesn't impress me as anything else. It has a self-aggrandizement tone throughout. The large section "Early life and education" is irrelevant to notability. In a nutshell, this individual has been a successful career business man. But that usually means getting a good education and making the right connections to rise to the top. However, I don't find where he meets WP:ANYBIO, and he would not match any other criteria. — Maile (talk) 03:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Agree that it does not meet WP:ANYBIO. Also, I am suspicious that this may be a case of WP:AUTO (e.g. the headshot picture is uploaded by johnkellogwerner). A significant number of the sources are problematic, with some being press releases, personal blogs, local pieces, and the subject's alumni magazine (the info from which likely comes from the subject himself). Manyyassin (talk) 05:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antoine Sallis[edit]

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Borderline promo piece on a businessperson that doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. According to WP:RSPS, we should not accept Forbes contributor pieces nor articles on Medium as evidence of notability, as they are essentially self-published and/or have very little editorial oversight. The other sources are also quite suspect and either look like blogs or are written in a very promotional way, which indicates some sort of conflict of interest. My own searches found nothing better. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete - WP:G11. "President of Rapid Credit Boosters. Sallis is a philanthropist, motivational speaker [...]" give me a break. BrigadierG (talk) 21:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per BrigadierG. It's not just a "borderline promo piece" it literally is a promo piece. Even if it wasn't a promo piece he does not seem notable anyway. Procyon117 (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Antoine Sallis meets the notability criteria as demonstrated by several reliable sources.  He was featured in Black Enterprise and Rolling Out, which provide significant coverage of his career and achievements:
 - Black Enterprise: [Antoine Sallis, the Credit Genius, teaches others how to maximize the full power of credit](https://www.blackenterprise.com/antoine-sallis-the-credit-genius-teaches-others-how-to-maximize-the-full-power-of-credit/)
 - Rolling Out: [Antoine Sallis, the Credit Genius, talks about his unique leadership style](https://rollingout.com/2022/04/30/antoine-sallis-the-credit-genius-talks-about-his-unique-leadership-style/ )

Additionally, he is a published author with books that have ISBNs and are listed in reliable databases such as Google Books:

 - Google Books: [The Great American Credit Secret](https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Great_American_Credit_Secret.html?id=pSH_zwEACAAJ)

These sources clearly establish his notability and warrant the retention of this article.

Please sign your comments so we know who this is. Other than that, the first two links are just interviews that don't show any notability. And having a book in Google Books doesn't guarantee notability. Procyon117 (talk) 14:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I've removed some known SEO sinks. The rest is vanity press publications. Sam Kuru (talk) 02:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing concrete to establish notablility, fails GNG and looks more of promotional as well. Robertjamal12 ~🔔 14:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gauntlett Eldemire III[edit]

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This person is far from notable. There are no articles about him from any source other than his own school's website. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 01:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Some RS coverage exists (News-Herald, Inquirer), but not enough to justify an article under GNG imho. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not remotely notable. Wizardman 22:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No WP:SIGCOV is available for this subject to meet the GNG. Let'srun (talk) 17:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elnur Aslanov[edit]

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Delete' being a department manager cannot make a person directly encyclopedic.--Correspondentman (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - The article has many sources, enough for Wikipedia:GNG, even searching for him unloads possible sources.

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Guillaume Besse (entrepreneur)[edit]

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I don't think the notability criteria has been met. The article was created and primarily written by an apparent pair of sockpuppet COI editors: Shoushanne and Santa monique. They were focused mainly on Carole Bienaimé, whose article identifies her as married to Besse. Santa monique also uploaded the photos of Bienaimé. Risedemise (talk) 11:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vipul Shah (businessman)[edit]

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Non-notable businessman, with no significant secondary coverage in reliable sources, just passing mentions in The Hindu and Fortune. He's interviewed in The Week as cited, but that's a primary source. Passing mentions, routine coverage in trade blogs and softball interviews was all else I could find in a WP:BEFORE search. Promotional tone and editing history of article creator suggests UPE. Wikishovel (talk) 07:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Page is of a businessman but it is notabke as per wikipedia guidelines.News coverage is enough in News media60.254.0.91 (talk) 05:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — 60.254.0.91 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Tony Curzon Price[edit]

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This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO because the WP:LOTSOFSOURCES are primary, including biographies and the like by related parties. No particular claim to notability is textually clear. JFHJr (㊟) 03:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep per The Telegraph (well beyond the Wikipedia:One hundred words suggestion for SIGCOV) and because we usually set the bar a little lower for sources that we might cite. (BTW, JFHJr, it's not necessary for an article to have a "particular claim to notability". Were you thinking about Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance, which is a WP:CSD thing?) WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No particular claim to notability is in regards to finding a more specific criterion than GNG. Where are the multiple independent (unrelated to the subject) reliable sources providing significant coverage? JFHJr (㊟) 03:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nana Wanjau[edit]

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Non-notable businesswoman and "philanthropist." Sources do not support notability under WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. Most references are WP:PRIMARYSOURCES and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS or they fail verification. The only examples of WP:SIGCOV are problematic and unreliable. Mkazi (the website is inactive) was a lifestyle blog with no named editors or legitimate editorial process. The Parents Africa profile is really a WP:INTERVIEW, and it makes major errors (for example, stating that she left a highly-paid corporate job in a year when she would have been 20). Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I have reorganized the article and added some news articles sources from Gale. The top two references are here:^[1]^[2] The Mkazi article mentioned above also provides biographical details. I updated the citation for the Mkazi article, and other inactive URLs, to use archived URLs. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Munde, Claire (October 22, 2016). "I blend my charity work with personal growth". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya) – via Gale.
^ "No husband no dignity? Group helps widows rebuild their lives". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya). July 15, 2017 – via Gale.

Can you provide some details on what the second Star source you cited says since there appears to be no online version? Thanks! The first one (link here) is a WP:INTERVIEW and thus would not qualify for notability. As for the Mkazi piece, it was a lifestyle blog with no named editors or legitimate editorial process and thus cannot be a reliable source for purposes of notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The second article is 1300 words on the charity founded by Wanjau. Also, I would argue that the first source I provided includes expansion of the conversation with Wanjau, and thus showing 'depth of preparation' that would be needed to establish notability as is quoted in the essay you linked. DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1300 words on Wanjau or on her charity? Re: the Star interview, every other paragraph is a quote from Wanjau. There are no quotes from other interviewees, and she appears to be the sole source relied upon by the interviewer, which shows the opposite of "depth of preparation." Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article you cannot access is about her charity and biographical details on her. I stand by my statements that the citations I provide were more than interviews; the Mkazi piece and the lengthy editorial from Parents Africa are also more than interviews. At this point I leave it to other people to comment. DaffodilOcean (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Matthew Brown (businessperson)[edit]

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WP:BLP1E, WP:UPE, WP:RUMOR - of all the things to be notable for, I think the oddest thing about this fellow is that his main claim to notability is *not* investing in Virgin Orbit. The only coverage is rumor mill stuff churned out around the time of Virgin Orbit's fall, and the deal never closed - they liquidated around 2 months after these stories were put out. BrigadierG (talk) 13:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Probably a COI creation, I checked a number of references and very little that is said in the article is true/verifiable. He specifically did NOT fund Virgin Orbit, and did NOT consult with UC Berkeley. He actually seems to be a bit (or more than a bit) of a con man, making absurd claims. From the Quartz article: "Halsey said Brown told him he started his career as a teenage tech entrepreneur working with Mark Zuckerberg and the Winklevoss brothers before selling a company to Salesforce. Then, while a 19-year-old enrolled at TCU, Brown won an executive position and, shortly thereafter, the top job at a Texas family office managing $6 billion in assets. He advised the Obama White House and the famed investor T. Boone Pickens on renewable energy." None of this can be verified. Lamona (talk) 02:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It appears the user making the latest edits (including odd "verification required" tags on locations where the subject works, which are clearly on the official Website of the companies as well as Google Maps) is closely related to the Quartz article’s author, a COI. Multiple edits mischaracterize the article, for instance the latest, where the edit mischaracterized the Quartz perceived “hit piece" by adding “(this was denied by the institution [10]),” when in fact the article said “the lab told Quartz he had no official role. But its director, professor Daniel Kammen, said he did recognize Brown from open meetings at the lab." That comment by the lab’s director could easily render one to be a Consultant. The Quartz writer fails to substantiate any stance with the DOE/Biden Administration/DOD consultantships, therefore such can be, in theory, deemed true, especially given his credit in a DOE Energy Efficiency handbook (sourced^[1]). The same would apply for the subject’s CNBC comments (sourced). Further, the Quartz article mentions Energent “has never filed 13F reports required by money managers with more than $100 million in public securities” when in the very next sentence the author quotes PitchBook which clearly states Energent never has had and has public securities. Further, the article alleges litigation but fails to mention that the subject’s firm was the Plaintiff in the Action and the judge in the counter-suit suggested that, in court filings, the Defendant’s claims (American Express transfers/Plantiff putting the wind farm in receivership) “weren’t worth a tinker’s damn.” (Notably, this wind farm was one of the more modern CFIUS-involved pieces of litigation: "Order Signed by the President of the United States," - then President Obama - a notable acquisition, Huerfano River Wind Farm, by the subject. This is important as it supports the subjects preference for SPVs, as he calls them, but this one was leaked as due to the CFIUS nature.) The law firm the subject of the article used, upon research, looks to be settlement counsel, but the Quartz article author obfuscated the true facts of the single case the author wrote about, and wrote a less than favorable, arguably factually incorrect, article. The Quartz article, instead, seems to favor the subject more than hurt the subject given the lack of denials for comment, outside of Pickens which quotes more-or-less his right-hand man/friend, regarding the subject’s claims (Facebook, family office, etc.), but also shows a clear bias against the subject, again a potential COI, and, again, a potentially from the author of the Quartz article. Regardless, this objection is not about Quartz (the subject's PPP loans and "high-rolling entrepreneur who spends time in Hawaii and travels by private jet to visit factories building high-altitude blimps and satellite launchers" are irrelevant), but the validity of the subject, and if he maintains the ownership in the companies which PitchBook et al. suggest is accurate, this is an objection for deletion and motion to keep, at least for now. FourDoorsOneExit (talk) 06:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You, above, it would be best for you to return and sign your edit here. (I thought if one failed it would happened automatically - obviously not.) Some of your statements here are hard to accept. For example: "“(this was denied by the institution [10]),” when in fact the article said “the lab told Quartz he had no official role. But its director, professor Daniel Kammen, said he did recognize Brown from open meetings at the lab." That comment by the lab’s director could easily render one to be a Consultant." No, being recognized in a meeting does not make one a consultant. For other statements here, the Wikipedia standard is to cite reliable sources, so if you have sources for your information you need to add them to the article. Owning one or more companies does not automatically make one notable for a Wikipedia article. Use of sources like facebook or the company web page will not support ones' claims; the reliable sources must be independent of the person. Lamona (talk) 14:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I made the edit with the signature block. You appear lost in the weeds as to my comments. The article never mentioned "one meeting" nor did Dr. Kammen (though you did so as to paint a false narrative). In fact, Dr. Kammen said "open meetings," plural. The subject is also a contributor in the Guide authored by the lab's director. Having attended public meetings, as the director said, and assisting in academic/legislative papers would suggest a "consultant" and/or "contributor." The subject clearly had a significant role, but also clearly not as significant as a C-Suite, per se. I agree with the comment of owning one or more companies does not "automatically make one notable for a Wikipedia article," but that is not at dispute here. The comment of Facebook or the companies Websites was to address a seemingly zealous editor tagging where the companies are located when they clearly, and specifically, passed Facebook and Google Maps authentication (as well as their location being on their Website). This goes back, again, to a COI editor flagging meaningless tags. My vote still stands, for now. This could all turn to dust if the subject of the Wikipedia article turns to dust tomorrow, but for now it is worth notoriety. I vote "Keep." FourDoorsOneExit (talk) 17:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I feel compelled to note that the long paragraph above is the first edit made by FourDoorsOneExit. It is generally a good idea to become familiar with Wikipedia editing and policies before !voting at AfD. These discussions are usually heavy on policy, and that takes a while to absorb. You have now !voted "keep" twice, and only one !vote per user is allowed. I also think you do not know what "COI" means here. It is defined as "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." You can see more about this at WP:COI. The other advice I will give is WP:Civility. You can criticize the article but it's best to assume that everyone here is trying to make WP a good quality product.Lamona (talk) 21:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I respect the feedback and am familiar with AfD as well as COI, which is why I wrote the narrative above. I'm neither a friend, family, client etc. of the subject. I did not vote to "Keep" twice, just affirmed my vote. You and I stand aligned with making WP a good quality product. FourDoorsOneExit (talk) 22:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It is worthy, by nature, of the Virgin Orbit bankruptcy, the largest in the space industry. He clearly is involved in the industry and I suggest "Keeping."
Are you the same editor as above? Both edits are unsigned. Lamona (talk) 14:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge to Virgin Orbit perhaps if there's anything more to merge than what is already covered there. The sourcing establishes that his failed takeover bid is worth mentioning somewhere in Wikipedia but probably not that he is himself notable. --Here2rewrite (talk) 20:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Having read all votes, he meets Wikipedia's minimum threshold but I suggest the original editor clean this up a little. 172.56.240.18 (talk) 23:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can (and should) "clean up" articles on Wikipedia. If you see something that needs doing, go ahead. Also, determining the minimum for GNG is not based on the votes (although it's hard not to be influenced by them). It's based on the results of searches for sources. Everyone should do their own investigation, although sometimes someone comes through with enough found sources that we can all take advantage of their work. So far in this discussion new sources have not be revealed, however. Lamona (talk) 06:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Comment Matt is a well known investor in Cali & the article meets notoriety. 172.56.179.101 (talk) 00:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Matt"? "notoriety"? and two IPs in a similar range. I hope we don't have WP:SOCKing going on here. That would greatly complicate what otherwise would be a pretty straight-forward AFD. Lamona (talk) 06:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep TiffanySwalwell (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Agcaoili[edit]

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Almost entirely the work of User:Greyhat, who, based on the deleted edit summaries for File:Phil Agcaoili 2011.jpg, has been in personal contact with the subject. Unclear the subject is notable, and the article is highly promotional. The company he founded is apparently not notable enough to have an article. -- Beland (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scott Fox (author)[edit]

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Appears to be overly promotional and shows no sign of meeting WP:GNG due to lack of RS. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 03:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Vortex - We got a notice that this page was flagged for deletion. Great timing as I have been meaning to hopefully update it. The info is old and not entirely accurate as it was written by fans of my books years ago. Can u share any guidance on how we can improve its "notability" to meet Wikipedia standards? Also what is "RS"? You're probably a volunteer so thanks for all the work you do for the Wikipedia community. Scott Nelsonave21 (talk) 20:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Scott. Please read this link WP:GNG for the general standards to meet "notability". On Wikipedia, RS stands for "reliable sources". For authors, this commonly includes reviews of your books. None of the sources cited on the article are WP:RS because they are just raw interviews of you, only mention you briefly (see WP:GNG for more info) or are written by Forbes contributors (see this link WP:FORBES for info on deciding what Forbes articles count as RS).

Also, yes, like many editors on Wikipedia, I am a volunteer and edit as a hobby :) — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 06:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mention: @Nelsonave21 — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 06:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, I'm concerned about you saying "We got a notice that this page was flagged for deletion." Just a head's up — if you got an email about this, please be aware that scammers have targeted people whose articles have been deleted or flagged for deletion before (WP:SCAM), offering to restore it or something similar. Most, if not all, of these offers are fradulent. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 09:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vortex: thank you for this detailed reply. This is super helpful. We will work on it. What is the best way to submit or update? Is there a timeline? Thanks again, including for the accurate warning about the (likely scammy) deletion email we received. Nelsonave21 (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nelsonave21: Please see WP:AFD, particularly this line: If you wish for an article to be kept, you can directly improve the article to address the reasons for deletion given in the nomination. You can search [for] reliable sources so that the article meets notability guidelines. AfD discussion like this one are kept open for at least seven days before a decision is made (multiple editors have to give their opinions first before a decision about the consensus can be made, so this discussion will probably go on for longer).

In your case, editing the article yourself would be COI editing, which is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. However, you can find examples of reliable sources about you or your books and post it here, on this AfD, to prove the article meets WP:GNG. This would prevent deletion. Again, most RS for authors takes the form of book reviews in newspapers, magazines, or periodicals.

If this AfD is closed with consensus to delete the article, the article can be recreated if and only if it satisfies WP:GNG. In this case, I recommend the AfC process, which involves writing a draft article and submitting it for review. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 06:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've not reviewed the article yet, but while it is normal for an AFD discussion to be closed within a week or a month, don't worry too much about that, you can usually get an admin to restore the contents as a draft or by email if you'd like to work on it. "Deletion" is not generally irreversible. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The USA Today won't open, the rest are non-RS per Cite Highlighter. Unfortunately, I don't see book reviews, nor much of anything for this person. No notability found, does not pass AUTHOR. Oaktree b (talk) 19:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oaktree, Alpha3031, Vortex3427 and other editors - thanks very much for the followup on this.

We have gathered 100+ links referring to my work supporting startup entrepreneurs over the years, including dozens of book reviews, speaking appearances, and podcasts. We will narrow those down to the more significant ones.

What's the best way to share those links? I know you are volunteers and don't want to burden you, so how can we help best? (Happy to draft a rewrite of the current page for your review but not sure that's allowed.)

Also, many of the bigger name book reviews were from my first book back in 2006-8. It was a pioneering work in the development of Web 2.0 entrepreneurship. We have jpgs and some PDFs of those articles from outlets like the Boston Globe, Philadelphia Inquirer, Toronto Globe & Mail, Orange County Register etc. but unfortunately the old URLs are mostly 404 by now. How best to share those?

Similarly - my books have been translated into many languages around the world. That seems to show they are "notable" also in other languages. We found links to some of those (Turkish, Polish, Vietnamese) but other editions (like Russian and Japanese) are not discoverable via English search engines. We do have screen shots of the cover art, though. Can we share those, too?

Thanks for your help learning how Wikipedia works. I have donated repeatedly in the past but never gotten into the nuts & bolts of it like this.

Scott

p.s. I'm currently working on 2 new books to help startup founders, esp under-represented female, minority, and non-US entrepreneurs. Thank you all for your time. Hopefully we can keep my page alive so its available during those book launches next year. Nelsonave21 (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nelsonave21: Yes, please share the PDFs here. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 00:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, will do. How do we share PDFs here, though? There's no attachments tool in the toolbar.

Thanks. Nelsonave21 (talk) 06:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nelsonave21: You'd have to upload it on another website and share the links here. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 08:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment After scouring the internet for any possible sources, I've found two book reviews and one article that I believe would count towards notability. I've also found four more book reviews, but I'm unsure if the coverage is significant enough to count. Leaving them here for a more experienced editor to assess. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 09:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again - thanks for your guidance here. And for finding those additional sources. You found coverage I've never seen before!

Below is a list of URLs that are still active online that include some of the coverage of my books and work.

We have also put up a Google Drive folder here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1j0KUxFYUl4A5qAo3-sKwzr-Z4MBIBIZI?usp=sharing That contains a couple of dozen more press clippings, major market book reviews, foreign book covers, etc. for publicity that has since fallen offline.

If these are helpful, we easily have a lot more from my almost 20 years of serving entrepreneurs if you'd like to see it.

Hopefully that's the right idea for sources.

Please LMK how we can help if we can? It looks like a fair bit of work to parse through those and assign them properly into an article, etc. The article needs updating anyway and we'd be happy to assist.

Thanks again very much for your work here.

Scott

https://antrepreneur.uci.edu/2023/08/07/uci-antrepreneur-center-joins-forces-with-the-oc-startup-council-to-empower-student-entrepreneurs/

https://www.engine.is/news/startupseverywhere-orange-county-calif

https://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/book-review/click-millionaires-work-less-live-more-internet-business-you-love

https://alliancesocal.org/news/2024/03/01/preparing-founders-for-success-and-connections-at-happy-hour-in-irvine/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO6JdpN17P8

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericwagner/2012/09/04/click-millionaires-7-secrets-to-less-work-and-more-life/

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/13132762-click-millionaires

https://www.eofire.com/podcast/scott-fox-of-click-millionaires-interview-with-john-lee-dumas-of-entrepreneur-on-fire-2/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58917442-e-riches-2-0

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/108552513-internet-zenginleri

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44557823-click-millionaires-czyli-internetowi-milionerzy-e-biznes-na-twoich-zasad

https://www.beckman-foundation.org/latest-news/irvine-tech-week/

https://www.revolv3.com/resources/what-makes-orange-county-the-hottest-hub-for-startups-today

https://www.socalentrepreneurship.org/scce-24

https://www.operatepod.com/e/scott-fox-orange-county-startup-council/

https://www.cakeequity.com/podcasts/how-to-raise-first-rounds-scott-fox

https://startupgamechanger.org/speakers/scott-fox/ Nelsonave21 (talk) 06:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tan Yinglan[edit]

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Factors do not appear to have meaningfully changed since the prior discussion. He's an active businessperson, and Insignia Ventures Partners may be notable but he does not appear so as an author. Star Mississippi 01:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-19/singapore-s-insignia-ventures-intensifies-push-into-healthtech, https://www.ft.com/content/8c484648-f4b7-11e9-a79c-bc9acae3b654, https://www.reuters.com/technology/insignia-ventures-raises-516-mln-bets-southeast-asian-tech-firms-2022-08-01/, https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/13/insignia-venture-partners-fund-25-million-yinglan-tan/. There is also coverage in New Straits Times [8][9]. 182.190.216.63 (talk) 14:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdul Azim Badakhshi[edit]

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The first nomination was withdrawn and not properly discussed. I am not convinced the subject meets the criteria for "Sport personality" according to WP:SPORTSPERSON which states that "A sportsperson is presumed to be notable if the person has won a significant honor." which he didn't. "Meeting this requirement alone does not indicate notability", the subject still needs to pass GNG guidelines. I would like to discuss it further as the subject is not even close to meeting WP:NMMA criteria. Having fought in ACB, AFC, Brave FC, is not enough and the subject has never been ranked in the world top 10 as per WP:NMMA. Lekkha Moun (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I withdrawn my request cuz as a Persian language user I find and confirm the authenticity of the sources which meet WP:SPORTSPERSON clearly:
- BBC (1) (2)
- The Independent (3)
- Hindustan Times (4) (5) (6)
- Afghanistan International (7) (8) (9) (10) (11)
- ESPN (12) (13)
- UFC (14)
- The Print (15) (16)
- Radio Azadi (17) (18) (19) (20) (21)

Claggy (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Greetings, Your concern is understandable. But He clearly meet WP:SPORTSPERSON and Wp:Bio , Despite of being a athlete, He has become a national symbol in Afghanistan, with support from the Millions of Afghans including former President, ministers, and other officials who recognize his achievements. His journey is completely motivator for new generation in Afghanistan and India. Besides his sports career, he is a successful motivator, investor, and human rights activist, I hope this satisfies your concerns.Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: I removed some of WP:NONRS references, He clearly meet WP:SPORTSPERSON. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 16:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete First of all, I would like to ask Parwiz ahmadi What is your connection with the said article subject? You seem to have so much interest in him and you have been pleading with editors to help you save the article. You were pleading with Liz for her cooperation and telling her to close the AFD discussion immediately which the reference can be found here. You were also pleading with a user named Untamed1910 in assisting you to also help you save the article which the references can be found here. There is no Wikipedia article you have ever submitted for WP:AFCREVIEW that has been accepted. All were decline. 99% of the ones you have created and move to main space are already deleted except Din Mohammad Jurat which still doesn't also seem to meet WP:GNG. The only news was that he was fired. How does that now makes him suitable for wikipedia without meeting WP:GNG. From what I have reviewed so far I definitely support Lekkha Moun. The article should be deleted because I don't see how it meets WP:GNG either. This is a English Wikipedia, so I don't see how the sources above help.--Gabriel (talk to me ) 18:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Sir@Gabriel601

I must say that yes, I requested Ms. @User:Liz to close the AFD according to Wikipedia's policies since seven days have passed since the AFD started. As the Wikipedia rules state, the AFD should be closed if possible. However, I did not use the word "immediately." It would be better if you speak the truth.

Secondly, my entire interest in preserving this article is due to the several days of effort I have put into it, and I am fully aware and confident that this article meets WP:SPORTSPERSON criteria. He is one of the most famous athletes in Afghanistan and is considered a national figure in Afghanistan. Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You told Liz to Please keep this article and close the nomination which sounds like an immediate task. Secondly effort you put about writing articles you never submitted for review doesn't matter here especially when it has now been nominated for AFD. It is a process that has to be passed since you fail to follow the right way as a newbie. Gabriel (talk to me ) 19:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear @Gabriel601 ,This matter does not concern you regarding what I have written on Ms. Liz's talk page.

Please write your own personal opinion and that’s it. you are not Ms. Liz's representative or Advisor,

In my opinion, your manner of speaking is inappropriate and offensive. I request the respected admin to take this point into consideration.

Your reaction is very unusual and aggressive. Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 20:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just remembered also you don't have the right to tell an admin the final decision to take on an AFD discussion. He or she can still relist the AFD if the consensus debate is still not clear. My statement might be aggressive to you but they mean no harm than to coach you. Stop moving article directly to main space without submitting them for review to avoid AFD next time. A question was asked by @Bbb23 on your user talk page but you never responded. @Whpq has also warned you regarding your edits. So nothing seems to be new. Gabriel (talk to me ) 20:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have the right to ask Liz to undelete your drafts? Here is an example of what you wrote:

Undeletion Draft Requests Hello Liz, I hope you are doing great. I visited your talk page because you deleted the draft articles Draft

Mayweather, Draft

(restaurant), Draft

Darlington, Draft

Maksumov, Draft

So, do you have the right to request Liz to undelete seven or eight of your articles? Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 20:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have the right to request because they were draft that was untouched after six months and deleted by Liz as per deletion of old drafts. You seem to be a stubborn newbie. Who know if that was why @Bbb23 was requesting for your previous account username. Your edit needs to be checked. If you can be moving articles to main space without review and non of your article submitted has been approved ( All declined ) on this current account. Then how would your old account then look like. I am done communicating with you. I leave the rest to other of the editors on wikipedia to check your works. Gabriel (talk to me ) 21:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabriel601 This is a English Wikipedia, so I don't see how the sources above help. Non-english sources are perfectly acceptable if they are WP:RS. See WP:RSUEC. And user conduct issues should be taken elsewhere. It doesn't particularly help or concern the afd. — hako9 (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:Since I have come up as a subject in this AFD discussion, I feel "involved" and will leave the closure to another administrator. Secondly, I don't remember seeing any User talk page messages but I have been very remiss/behind on replying to talk page messages as I'm caring for a bedbound relative and find responding to talk page messages more taxing than other kinds of editing/admin work. So, I don't believe I've been influenced but will decline to close to avoid any appearance of impropriety. Finally, unless there was problematic content (copyright violations, BLP violations, etc.) I will restore a deleted article to Draft space as long as the editor knows they have to submit the draft for review to AFC so that request is not that unusual. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like a great decision. Wishing you a greater strength as you undergo your caring for a bedbound relative. Gabriel (talk to me ) 22:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't understand what is happening with this article, but it's definitely the weirdest AFD I have been involved. There is drama, and I counted 6 different users (now blocked) that tried to close prematurely the discussion as "no consensus". To me it seems like some people may have a vested interest in the subject. Potentiel COI? PAID? Vanity page? I'm not sure, however 6 reverted "close" is very unusual. Lekkha Moun (talk) 15:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The attempted closes are from a long term abuse vandal, and should not reflect on those supporting keeping this article. PhilKnight (talk) 15:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All 6 of them? Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, just one person. PhilKnight (talk) 16:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 01:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article (Abdul azim badakhshi meets WP:SPORTSPERSON criteria due to extensive coverage in reliable sources such as BBC, The independent and ESPN. His recognition as a national figure in Afghanistan and his multi-faceted contributions confirm his notability. شریف الله منصوری (talk) 12:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[:2-1] Munde, Claire (October 22, 2016). "I blend my charity work with personal growth". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya) – via Gale.

[:3-2] "No husband no dignity? Group helps widows rebuild their lives". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya). July 15, 2017 – via Gale.

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