Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse
Damon Lindelof (right) started in TV as a writer on Nash
Bridges. He was executive producer and story editor on Crossing
Jordan and recently added comic book writer to his resume
with this work on Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk for Marvel
Comics. He’s the co-creator and an executive producer of Lost.
Executive producer Carlton Cuse (left) started as a writer
on Crime Story. Cuse is the co-creator of the fondly-remembered
Adventures of Brisco County Jr., starring cult favorite
Bruce Campbell as a bounty hunter in a show that can best be described
as a science fiction western action adventure comedy series. Cuse
also created Nash Bridges, the long-running series about
a San Francisco cop starring Don Johnson and Cheech Marin.
CCI:
When you appear at Comic-Con in July you’ll be starting production
on season three of Lost. By the time our fans read this
they’ll already know what happens at the end of season two. Is
there anything you’d like to mention about this last season to
talk them down off the ledge?
Carlton Cuse: We hope that we provided more answers in
the finale this year than we did in season one. And I think, hopefully
at the end of the finale this year, we’ve instilled an exciting
new mystery that will keep people tuning into the show next year.
We’re sort of setting into motion a new story and mystery at the
end, which the audience hopefully is going to be very engaged
in.
Damon Lindelof: And you know last year’s big question
over the summer was ‘what’s in the hatch’ and there will be an
equally compelling question that people will be asking, hopefully,
this summer and if we’ve done our job right, they’ll be hungry
for the answer.
CCI:
Season two introduced a whole new tribe of survivors on the island.
With the storyline that already included more than a dozen characters
all vying for screen time, why introduce a whole second set of
survivors?
Carlton: You know, I think the show has to constantly
keep moving forward, it’s a story-based series, it’s not a franchise
based series. So with any great epic story, you’re constantly
going to meet new characters and that’s just a part of the evolution
of the story. There will always be new characters that will be
joining the cast of Lost. We will try to give the audience
a lot of stuff with your favorite characters and introducing new
characters and evolving the story is just part of the DNA of the
show.
Damon: And you’ll notice we sort of Lost two to
gain two. You know, Ana Lucia and Mr. Echo were sort of the two
main characters to sort of incorporate from the tail section,
although Libby and Bernard were sort of second tier characters.
But those two characters actually ended up replacing Shannon and
Boone. We have sort of a critical mass of characters, so we try
not to add them just for the sake of adding them.
CCI:
We all know that visits to beautiful tropical islands has therapeutic
value but the island of Lost seems to actually cure people.
Locke walks again and Rose is cancer free. Is the island some
kind of healing zone where the medical problems people arrive
with are miraculously cured?
Damon: Well, that’s certainly a big part of the speculation.
As we don’t entirely know what Locke was doing in the wheelchair
yet, that question is up for grabs. Certainly one could argue
that Rose believing she’s healed does not necessarily mean that
she is. So this is one of those places the show lives where we
as storytellers find it really interesting. All these stories
that you read about, that someone is convinced that they’re terminal,
then just sort of on faith and faith alone they’re actually able
to go into remission. And whether the island is doing that, or
whether it’s a degree of their own faith in being on the island
lies the rub, but you know, going into season three, that very
question is something that will be a real central focus of the
storytelling next year.
Carlton: Especially since why is it that Locke can get
out of his wheelchair on the island, and yet Hurley can’t be cured
of his bunions?
Damon: That’s right. Horrible bunions.
Carlton: Bunions are just not susceptible to the magical
powers of the island.
Damon: You can say that again.
CCI:
Before Lost debuted, dramatic TV seemed to be going the
way of the dinosaur. Now we’re seeing a plethora of intricately
plotted multi storyline shows. Did Lost revive the drama
series for network TV?
Carlton: I think it changed the paradigm. It sort of made
it possible for shows with large casts, and story-based as opposed
to franchise-based series to be seen as highly viable. And I think
it also opened the door for science fiction, which is something
that while we see Lost as a show that is a character show
with science fiction embedded in it, you know it really has opened
the door for that genre which was pretty much closed. The networks
considered it pretty much a closed door for science fiction before
Lost.
Damon: Yeah, when there was a similar thing when X-Files
became a hit, which was X-Files spawned a whole series
of X-Files types spin-offs and sci-fi sort of made it’s
way over and the reality is these shows function, they work the
same reason most shows work is because people really attached
to the characters. You know there was something so compelling
about Mulder and Scully, what they were doing, so we don’t think
that we’ve really reinvented anything we’ve just sort of taken
elements from shows and movies that we really love and put them
all into one big pot and mixed it up. And hopefully that has allowed
the networks to think a little more outside the box in terms of
what a successful TV show can look like.
CCI:
Carlton, you’re known for the Adventures of Brisco County
Jr., which was a genre bending series in its time. What exactly
is Lost? Is it action, adventure, mystery, science fiction,
fantasy, soap opera or all the above.
Carlton: I think it’s definitely all of the above. I think
what Damon and I have really tried to do in the show is to never
limit ourselves in terms of what types of stories we tell. Part
of the process of making a series is you experiment and you discover
what the bandwidth of the series is and I think we’ve discovered
that Lost has a pretty wide bandwidth and can be really
intense and dark at times, and yet we can have really comedic
moments and we’ve discovered they can exists side by side.
Damon: It’s hard really to sort of peg it into any specific
genre. We really think of Lost as sort of in the spirit
of the Indiana Jones movies. The Indiana Jones movies certainly
operate in the fantasy realm, that is to say, you’ve got people’s
faces melting off, or Indiana Jones having a conversation with
one of the original Knights Templar, but it’s set sort of in the
real world in terms of the adventure components of it. And it
very much spins on sort of a character fun with that intermingled
with sort of really dark maneuvering. We like to think of it as
sort of an adventure show, with all of the above.
CCI:
Actually Jorge said he felt it was a character driven drama about
survival.
Carlton: Well, that’s good, I mean, I think at its core
that’s what it is. I mean we get asked a lot more questions about
the mythology but at the core we’re really making a character
show and the mythology is the icing on the cake. But it’s obviously
the thing that captivates and engages people and leads to the
sort of Thursday morning water cooler conversations. But if it
was just about that, then we’d probably have a much smaller audience.
Damon: Yeah, I mean we’re really doing two shows in one.
The first show is about these people on this island and what they’re
doing there, and the second show is who they were before they
came to this island. And obviously it’s the latter that gives
the show its real character drive.
CCI:
The fans have embraced Lost and you seem to listen to them.
How do you react to all the fan theories about what the show is
really about?
Damon: You know there are obviously a lot of theories
out there, some incredibly intricate. And the reality is, some
theories have pieces that are accurate and pieces that are wildly
off base. For us it’s sort of a fun guessing game for the fans
to continue to play, but at the end of the day we have to stay
on point and we cannot allow the fans’ theorizing reflect on what
our master plan is for the show, or to affect our storytelling.
It’s always cool to see them land relatively close to center
but then go scurrying off in the wrong direction again. And you
know as far as the big meta questions of Lost, that is
where we really can’t be interactive. There is a gripe about maintaining
that balance between mythological answers and frustration, which
we can always sort of course-correct, but Carlton and I were just
talking about this the other day and the reality is it’s sort
of a catch 22. Either the porridge is too hot or the porridge
is too cold. And if we gave too many answers in the finale last
year, there probably would have been some blowback in terms of
it being too confusing or it being too mythological-driven and
not enough character-based. And when you don’t give enough answers
you get fans being frustrated. So, we will constantly be vacillating
between those two poles.
CCI:
What’s the craziest theory you’ve heard so far?
Damon: I think I heard that it was all happening in the
dog’s head. That was a good one. The dog was imagining all this.
CCI:
Pop culture references abound in Lost and have your legion
of fans scurrying to figure out every arcane mention. While we
know sometimes a banana is just a banana, do these references
offer real clues?
Carlton: They do. I think part of what makes Lost
special is that it’s kind of an interactive experience. The fans
can participate, and they can sort of ferret out what the meaning
is of certain things and they can dig up the Easter eggs that
we imbed in the show. Then they can go online and share those
with others and they can become sort of proxy storytellers, and
I think that’s something which we really enjoy. We try to make
the show work on a lot of different levels. If you’re just a casual
viewer you can watch the show, you can watch a good Hurley flashback
story, and if you want to be more involved you can really try
to ferret out the nuggets that we place and hide there and try
to discern what their meaning is.
CCI:
Damon, you recently joined the ranks of comic book writers with
your work on Marvel’s Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk. Are
there any more comics in your future, and what’s the possibility
of a Lost comics series?
Damon: You know, once I’m actually finished with Wolverine
and Hulk-and its been a lot harder and a lot slower than I imagined
it to be-because of the focus on the day job. But it’s been enormously
rewarding and exciting work for me to be doing.
And I’m probably going to sit down with Joe Quesada when all
is said and done and see if there is anything we can work on again
together down the road. But as far as a Lost comic goes,
Carlton and I have been sort of trying to wrap our brains around
what that would look like and how it would work, and until the
concept sort of presents itself, we really held back on doing
it. We feel there are television shows like CSI and the
X-Files that sort of lend themselves more to comic book
storytelling because they are franchise dramas, but because Lost
is an ongoing and unfurling story, we haven’t quite isolated exactly
what the comic book could be.
But of course once we do, obviously that’s a medium we would
love to get involved in.
CCI:
This is your third year at Comic-Con and your first appearance
at the event was before Lost even debuted. Why Comic-Con
and what do you get from your yearly visits here?
Carlton: We view Comic-Con as our core fan base and it’s
really become a gathering place for more than just comics but
really sort of the ground zero for popular culture these days.
We just feel that we love being able to go back at the beginning
of each new season and reconnect with the fans who are most passionate
about our show.
Damon: We’re also really fan boys ourselves, you know,
it’s very exciting to see what other panels are down there, and
all the stuff that’s at Comic-Con really speaks to our sensibility
as storytellers. It’s been very exciting and obviously as Carlton
said it’s just like those are our people. So the idea of going
back to Comic-Con every year, where it all began, because one
of the first audiences to ever see the show was the Comic-Con
audience, outside of the network. We screened the pilot for Comic-Con
and we were met with such a warm reception that we just want to
sort of continue to give back to our fans. We feel the experience
at the panel this year is going to be especially interesting with
some of the stuff we’re planning.
Jorge Garcia
Jorge Garcia stars in Lost as Hugo “Hurley” Reyes,
the unluckiest lucky man in the world. Garcia’s other TV work
includes Curb Your Enthusiasm and a recurring role on the
sitcom Becker.
CCI:
Do you think Hurley is the luckiest man in the world, or the unluckiest
man in the world?
Jorge: (Laughs) Well, yeah I guess now I’ve got to go
with he’s actually quite unlucky. I mean, he won the money but
there’s so much bad connected to that money that I don’t know
how you can consider that being lucky.
CCI:
There seems to be a real connection between you and the new cast
member Libby played by Cynthia Watros. Is it cool for your character
to have a bit of a love interest there.
Jorge: It was. It was very cool, especially because how
often does a guy like me get an onscreen kiss?
CCI:
And then again there was that scene this season with Hurley in
the mental institution and Libby sitting across from you. Is all
of Lost just a fantasy in Hurley’s mind?
Jorge: Well, you might think that if it was in Hurley’s
mind there would be a lot more going his way. Seriously, his girlfriend
wouldn’t have been shot.
CCI:
When you give interviews like this are you told upfront what you
can and can’t say?
Jorge: Well, it depends, most times interviewers will
contact the show first and then the show gives them a little briefing
of what’s been going on up to the point of the interview. Some
people get briefed with certain information, but it mainly has
to do with when the interview will appear.
CCI:
Hurley since the beginning of the show has been kind of a happy
go lucky guy, and very down to earth. Now we’re learning more
and more about him and he’s probably one of the richest characters
in the cast when it comes to the back story. How do you feel about
the challenges as an actor from all these different sides of your
character?
Jorge: I think it’s fantastic. I think the fact that this
show just gives me opportunities to show more sides of my talent
than I think I might normally be allowed to show. You know, up
until this, I’ve played characters that have always been just
kind of like the funny guy.
But since this show I’ve been able to get some real emotion and
sensitivity like that, and it’s a very cool opportunity.
CCI:
Lost is a really hard show to categorize. It’s action,
adventure, mystery, science fiction, fantasy and soap opera. I
mean, what would you call Lost? If you had to describe
it to somebody in one or two sentences what would you tell them
it was about?
Jorge: If I had to describe it, I’d say it was a character
driven drama about survival. But to say that still leaves out
the whole mythology and mystery of it. So you’re right, it’s very
difficult to categorize. But that’s the best thing I can come
up with now, on the spot.
CCI:
How do fans react to you in public these days, and what’s it like
going from relatively unknown to being constantly recognized?
Jorge: It’s interesting, really. You kind of have to think
twice about going to the supermarket in cut-off sweats and a stained
shirt. I mean, especially in some parts of Hawaii, there’s a lot
of people who just happen to have their cameras on them. And they
take a lot of pictures. But yeah, it’s cool, it’s kind of nice.
Terry O’Quinn (Locke) put it best when he said it really feels
good when you can make someone’s day by just showing up.
CCI:
Before Lost, dramatic TV seemed to be going the way of
the dinosaur, especially with reality shows being so prevalent.
Do you think Lost revived the drama series for network
television?
Jorge: I think it definitely had an impact just by how
many pilots the year after Lost (debuted) had Lost
type qualities to them. I heard from Sam who plays Bernard on
the show, he was talking about pilot season this year being full
of shows that included flashbacks and, well, for me, anything
that gets more actors working I think is fantastic. So yeah, I’m
glad Lost has had that influence.
It’s also kind of cool that it seems to have put new energy and
a little more risk in narrative drama series.
CCI:
It’s also a really intelligent show too. It doesn’t talk down
to the audience. And obviously from the fan reaction, people spend
a lot of time thinking about the show and discussing it with their
friends.
Jorge: Yeah, the audience doesn’t know the end ahead of
time, the fact that it keeps them enough in the dark, and of course
it has to keep them in the dark too, because of the whole ‘big
picture’ aspect of the show.
CCI:
Do you know about Comic-Con?
Jorge: You know I’ve heard about it but I’ve never been,
but of course everyone’s heard of Comic-Con.
CCI:
We look forward to seeing you at Comic-Con in July.
Jorge: Yeah man, me too!